Repair Tips and Tricks

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If you're new to Seed or still learning the basics of repairing, try the First Day Guide or Gameplay Topics - Repairs.

This guide aims to collate the tips and tricks of the experienced repairer.

Warning: this guide does not necessarily include information to most recent beta patch. Please remove this warning if you update this guide to final patch.

1 Skills
2 Trade-Off Abilities
3 Inspirations
4 Equipment
- 4.1 Best Value for Money Tools with No Advanced Skills
- 4.2 Maximum Possible Repair Tools
5 Miscellaneous Tips
- 5.1 Targeting Repair Jobs
- 5.2 Dual Tasking
6 Complications

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Skills

Skills take time to train, so planning your skill training is important so that you can quickly acquire the more useful repair skills.

Repair skills can be separated into two groups: Specialist Skills and Trade-off Skills.

Specialist skills make you better at repairing a certain damage type by giving you a bonus to repair (5% per level) and giving you access to improved tool functions (e.g. Super Glue requires Engineering level 4). See the table below for the maximum Specialist skills required to use the best functions in the game as a guide to how far to train these skills.

Trade-Off skills provide trade-off abilities (see below), allowing you to increase one aspect of repair at the expense of another. Those aspects are:

Cooldown - the time taken between repair cycles
Repair Quality - unspecified as not implemented yet
Item Charge - not implemented but tools will use a number of charges for each repair and will need to be recharged
Item Stress - the amount of stress per repair cycle - if stress reaches maximum, the tool is damaged and will need repair
Inspiration Drop - the chance of an Inspiration being gained from a repair job
Salvage - unspecified as not implemented yet

Each Trade-off skill gives one ability for each skill level. The five abilities given by a single skill increase the same aspect and decrease different aspects. Basic level skills give a +25/-20% or +25%/-25% trade-off. Advanced level skills improve the trade-off to +50%/-10%.

As some aspects are not yet implemented in the beta, there is currently no advantage to increasing those aspects. So the skills Quality Assurance, Repair Technician, Resource Saving and Scrounging have no use for the moment and can be ignored in favour of other skills.

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Trade-Off Abilities

As some aspects are not yet implemented in the beta, there is also currently no disadvantage to decreasing those aspects.

Therefore, with the right abilities you can improve Cooldown and Item Stress for "free" (i.e. decreasing Quality, Charge, Inspiration Drop or Salvage).

Once you have advanced skills, you can also select opposite trade-offs, so that the net effect is 40% (+50% - 10%) increase to both aspects.

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Inspirations

Inspiration drops occur as you repair/produce/etc. They show up in your regular inventory, and can be traded to other players. They are used to decrease the time required to complete training for skills.

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Equipment

To be the best repairer, you need the best tools.

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Best Value for Money Tools with No Advanced Skills

Damage Type	Tool Name	Function Name	Damage per Cycle	Skill Required	Tool Base Value
Contamination	Monocleaner	Acid Spray	8 Contamination	Hazmat L1	916 AP
Electrical	Wire Splicer	Wiresplicer	2 Electrical	Basic Repair L1	5461 AP
Electronic	Isolation Kit	Isolate	2 Electronic	Basic Repair L1	1656 AP
Mechanical	Mechanized Wrench	Servo Wrench	5 Mechanical	Mechanics L3	29463 AP
Structural	Patcher	Patch	8 Structural	N/A	16072 AP

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Maximum Possible Repair Tools

Damage Type	Tool Name	Function Name	Damage per Cycle	Skill Required
Contamination	Radleak Response Kit	Radiation containment	19 Contamination	Adv Hazmat L5
Electrical	Mech Clamper or Mechanized Wrench	Photovoltaic cells	12 Electrical	Adv Electrician L1
Electronic	Radleak Response Kit	Flare protection	8 Electronic	Electronics L3
Mechanical	Mech Clamper or Servo Wrench	Clamper	12 Mechanical	Adv Mechanics L3
Structural	Mech-Wrench	Molecular Reassembly	17 Structural	Adv Engineering L5

For more detail on all tools in the game, see the List of Tools.

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Miscellaneous Tips

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Targeting Repair Jobs

Sometimes a repair job can be difficult to target. You click on the hatch, but no Target or Examine icons appear. Each job has a sweet spot to access these icons and some sweet spots can be hard to find.

The middle of the hatch generally works for wall hatches.

For floor hatches, if the middle of the hatch isn't working, click on or outside the short edges of the hatch (left or right), inside the white target frame. In my experience, the short edge closest to your character works more often.

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Dual Tasking

You can use more than one function on the same tool at a time:

Use Acid Spray and Biosponge on a Monocleaner to fix 10 Contamination per cycle
Use Servo Wrench and Photovoltaic Cells on a Mechanized Wrench to fix Mechanical and Electrical at the same time
Use Patch and Super Glue on a Monowrapper to fix 36 Structural per cycle!

However, using dual-tasking can be tricky. For it to work, you generally need to select both functions before the repair animation begins, although occasionally I have been able to start a second function after using one function for a few cycles.

One method that has worked for many players is to make sure all previous animations have stopped, then click the first and then second function in quick succession near the right hand edge of the cooldown gauge. If it has worked, then both gauges should start to "cooldown" simultaneously.

It may take a few tries to get the hang of it, so don't get put off if it doesn't work at first.

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Complications

Complications may appear while working on a repair job. You can do some tricks to avoid their harmful effects:

If a complication states that "you might get hurt" and you're unsure wether you can remove it in time, stop repairing and run some distance from the hatch. This way you can "leap out of harm's way", avoiding injuries.
If a complication can cause the repair job to get worse, but doesn't involve a damage type that wasn't worked on yet, you may ignore it - most likely it will only affect "it's" damage type which can't get worse, thus having no harmful effect.

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 This guide aims to collate the tips and tricks of the experienced repairer.
-These tips have all been personally verified by me ([[User:Actreal|Actreal]]) in game, so if you have a new tip to add, please use the Talk page to suggest it so that I can test it before transferring it to the Guide. Thanks.
+Warning: this guide does not necessarily include information to most recent beta patch. Please remove this warning if you update this guide to final patch.
-Beta patch information current as of 20 March 2006.
 ==Skills==
 Repair skills can be separated into two groups: Specialist Skills and Trade-off Skills.
-Specialist skills make you better at repairing a certain damage type by giving you a bonus to repair (5% per level) and giving you access to improved tool functions (e.g. Super Glue requires Engineering level 4).
+Specialist skills make you better at repairing a certain damage type by giving you a bonus to repair (5% per level) and giving you access to improved tool functions (e.g. Super Glue requires Engineering level 4). See the [[Repair_Tips_and_Tricks#Maximum_Possible_Repair_Tools|table below]] for the maximum Specialist skills required to use the best functions in the game as a guide to how far to train these skills.
 Trade-Off skills provide trade-off abilities (see below), allowing you to increase one aspect of repair at the expense of another. Those aspects are:
-* Cooldown - the time taken between repair "hits"
+* Cooldown - the time taken between repair cycles
 * Repair Quality - unspecified as not implemented yet
 * Item Charge - not implemented but tools will use a number of charges for each repair and will need to be recharged
-* Item Stress - the amount of stress per repair "hit" - if stress reaches maximum, the tool is damaged and will need repair
+* Item Stress - the amount of stress per repair cycle - if stress reaches maximum, the tool is damaged and will need repair
 * Inspiration Drop - the chance of an Inspiration being gained from a repair job
 * Salvage - unspecified as not implemented yet
+Each Trade-off skill gives one ability for each skill level. The five abilities given by a single skill increase the same aspect and decrease different aspects. Basic level skills give a +25/-20% or +25%/-25% trade-off. Advanced level skills improve the trade-off to +50%/-10%.
-Each Trade-off skill gives one ability for each skill level. The five abilities given by a single skill increase the same aspect and decrease different aspects. Basic level skills give a +25/-20% or +25%/-25% trade-off. Advanced level skills improve the trade-off to +50%/-10%
 As some aspects are not yet implemented in the beta, there is currently no advantage to increasing those aspects. So the skills [[Skill Trees#Repair|Quality Assurance, Repair Technician, Resource Saving and Scrounging]] have no use for the moment and can be ignored in favour of other skills.
 ==Trade-Off Abilities==
 Once you have advanced skills, you can also select opposite trade-offs, so that the net effect is 40% (+50% - 10%) increase to both aspects.
 ==Inspirations==
-Inspiration drops are currently not implemented. Tips will be added once Inspirations are available.
+Inspiration drops occur as you repair/produce/etc. They show up in your regular inventory, and can be traded to other players.  They are used to decrease the time required to complete training for skills.
 ==Equipment==
 To be the best repairer, you need the best tools.
-===Best Value for Money Tools===
+===Best Value for Money Tools with No Advanced Skills===
 {| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
 | '''Tool Name'''
 | '''Function Name'''
-| '''Repair Effect'''
+| '''Damage per Cycle'''
 | '''Skill Required'''
 | '''Tool Base Value'''
+|-
+| '''<font style="color: orange">Contamination</font>'''
+| [[List_of_Tools#Monocleaner|Monocleaner]]
+| Acid Spray
+| 8 <font style="color: orange">Contamination</font>
+| Hazmat L1
+| 916 AP
+|-
+| '''<font style="color: red">Electrical</font>'''
+| [[List_of_Tools#Wire_Splicer|Wire Splicer]]
+| Wiresplicer
+| 2 <font style="color: red">Electrical</font>
+| Basic Repair L1
+| 5461 AP
+|-
+| '''<font style="color: green">Electronic</font>'''
+| [[List_of_Tools#Isolation_Kit|Isolation Kit]]
+| Isolate
+| 2 <font style="color: green">Electronic</font>
+| Basic Repair L1
+| 1656 AP
 |-
 | '''<font style="color: blue">Mechanical</font>'''
 | [[List_of_Tools#Mechanized_Wrench|Mechanized Wrench]]
-| Grease
+| Servo Wrench
 | 5 <font style="color: blue">Mechanical</font>
 | Mechanics L3
-| 6624 AP
+| 29463 AP
 |-
-|
+| '''<font style="color: purple">Structural</font>'''
-|
+| [[List_of_Tools#Patcher|Patcher]]
-|
+| Patch
-|
+| 8 <font style="color: purple">Structural</font>
-|
+| N/A
-|
+| 16072 AP
-|}
+|} <br>
 ===Maximum Possible Repair Tools===
 | '''Tool Name'''
 | '''Function Name'''
-| '''Repair Effect'''
+| '''Damage per Cycle'''
 | '''Skill Required'''
-|-
-| '''<font style="color: blue">Mechanical</font>'''
-| [[List_of_Tools#Mech_Clamper|Mech Clamper]] or [[List_of_Tools#Servo_Wrench|Servo Wrench]]
-| Clamper
-| 12 <font style="color: blue">Mechanical</font>
-| Adv Mechanics L3
-|-
-| '''<font style="color: purple">Structural</font>'''
-| [[List_of_Tools#Monowrapper|Monowrapper]]
-| Super Glue
-| 28 <font style="color: purple">Structural</font>
-| Engineering L4
 |-
 | '''<font style="color: orange">Contamination</font>'''
-| [[List_of_Tools#Multicleaner|Multicleaner]]
+| [[List_of_Tools#Radleak Response Kit|Radleak Response Kit]]
-| Sterilizer Ray
+| Radiation containment
-| 18 <font style="color: orange">Contamination</font>
+| 19 <font style="color: orange">Contamination</font>
-| Adv Hazmat L4
+| Adv Hazmat L5
 |-
 | '''<font style="color: red">Electrical</font>'''
 |-
 | '''<font style="color: green">Electronic</font>'''
-| [[List_of_Tools#Heavy_Welder|Heavy Welder]] or [[List_of_Tools#Multicleaner|Multicleaner]]
+| [[List_of_Tools#Radleak Response Kit|Radleak Response Kit]]
-| Soldering Laser
+| Flare protection
-| 12 <font style="color: green">Electronic</font>
+| 8 <font style="color: green">Electronic</font>
-| Adv Electronics L1
+| Electronics L3
-|}
+|-
+| '''<font style="color: blue">Mechanical</font>'''
+| [[List_of_Tools#Mech_Clamper|Mech Clamper]] or [[List_of_Tools#Servo_Wrench|Servo Wrench]]
+| Clamper
+| 12 <font style="color: blue">Mechanical</font>
+| Adv Mechanics L3
+|-
+| '''<font style="color: purple">Structural</font>'''
+| [[List_of_Tools#Mech-Wrench|Mech-Wrench]]
+| Molecular Reassembly
+| 17 <font style="color: purple">Structural</font>
+| Adv Engineering L5
+|} <br>
+For more detail on all tools in the game, see the [[List_of_Tools|List of Tools]].
 ==Miscellaneous Tips==
+===Targeting Repair Jobs===
+Sometimes a repair job can be difficult to target. You click on the [[Service Hatches|hatch]], but no Target or Examine icons appear. Each job has a ''sweet spot'' to access these icons and some ''sweet spots'' can be hard to find.
+The middle of the hatch generally works for wall hatches.
+For floor hatches, if the middle of the hatch isn't working, '''click on or outside the short edges of the hatch (left or right), inside the white target frame'''. In my experience, the short edge closest to your character works more often.
 ===Dual Tasking===
 You can use more than one function on the same tool at a time:
-* Use ''Acid Spray'' and ''Biosponge'' on a [[List_of_Tools#Monocleaner|Monocleaner]] to fix 10 <font style="color: orange">Contamination</font> per "hit"
+* Use ''Acid Spray'' and ''Biosponge'' on a [[List_of_Tools#Monocleaner|Monocleaner]] to fix 10 <font style="color: orange">Contamination</font> per cycle
-* Use ''Wire and Jumper Kit'' and ''Wiresplicer'' on a [[List_of_Tools#Basic_E-kit|Basic E-kit]] to fix <font style="color: green">Electronic</font> and <font style="color: red">Electrical</font> at the same time
+* Use ''Servo Wrench'' and ''Photovoltaic Cells'' on a [[List_of_Tools#Mechanized_Wrench|Mechanized Wrench]] to fix <font style="color: blue">Mechanical</font> and <font style="color: red">Electrical</font> at the same time
-* Use ''Patch'' and ''Super Glue'' on a [[List_of_Tools#Monowrapper|Monowrapper]] to fix '''36 <font style="color: purple">Structural</font> per "hit"!'''
+* Use ''Patch'' and ''Super Glue'' on a [[List_of_Tools#Monowrapper|Monowrapper]] to fix '''36 <font style="color: purple">Structural</font> per cycle!'''
-However, using dual-tasking can be tricky. You need to select both functions before the repair animation begins.
+However, using dual-tasking can be tricky. For it to work, you generally need to select both functions before the repair animation begins, although occasionally I have been able to start a second function after using one function for a few cycles.
 One method that has worked for many players is to make sure all previous animations have stopped, then click the first and then second function in quick succession ''near the right hand edge of the cooldown gauge''. If it has worked, then both gauges should start to "cooldown" simultaneously.
-Be warned: it may take a few tries to get the hang of it.
+It may take a few tries to get the hang of it, so don't get put off if it doesn't work at first.
+==Complications==
+Complications may appear while working on a repair job. You can do some tricks to avoid their harmful effects:
+* If a complication states that "you might get hurt" and you're unsure wether you can remove it in time, stop repairing and run some distance from the hatch. This way you can "leap out of harm's way", avoiding injuries.
+* If a complication can cause the repair job to get worse, but doesn't involve a damage type that wasn't worked on yet, you may ignore it - most likely it will only affect "it's" damage type which can't get worse, thus having no harmful effect.

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Skills

Trade-Off Abilities

Inspirations

Equipment

Best Value for Money Tools with No Advanced Skills

Maximum Possible Repair Tools

Miscellaneous Tips

Targeting Repair Jobs

Dual Tasking

Complications

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